I'm looking for *verification for a claimed Guinness World Record for
World's smallest jet aircraft. A BD5.

The link on the Guinness site has not worked for months. I have
contacted them, and through email exchanges, their representative has
indicated they have no knowledge of this aircraft

The person claiming the record, a guy by the name of Juan Jimenez, has
informed me that the reason I cannot find the record is because I
"have the IQ of a pin", and do not know "which database to search".

I am quite sure I have searched the "correct database", and reasonably
sure the people at Guinness know their own database and how to search
it, but the final response to detailed questions about this BD5 is
that they have no knowledge of it.

Can anyone in this forum shed light on this discrepancy?

"Ted Parvo" wrote in message
...

>I'm looking for verification for a claimed Guinness World Record for
>World's smallest jet aircraft. A BD5.

>The link on the Guinness site has not worked for months. I have
>contacted them, and through email exchanges, their representative has
>indicated they have no knowledge of this aircraft

>The person claiming the record, a guy by the name of Juan Jimenez, has
>informed me that the reason I cannot find the record is because I
>"have the IQ of a pin", and do not know "which database to search".

>I am quite sure I have searched the "correct database", and reasonably
>sure the people at Guinness know their own database and how to search
>it, but the final response to detailed questions about this BD5 is
>that they have no knowledge of it.

>Can anyone in this forum shed light on this discrepancy?


Ted,

You may find enlightenment through a search of the archives of this group.
Or you might look up the definition of the word Apteryx.

Rich Isakson

On May 27, 1:48*pm, "Richard Isakson" > wrote:
> "Ted Parvo" *wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> >I'm looking for *verification for a claimed Guinness World Record for
> >World's smallest jet aircraft. A BD5.
> >The link on the Guinness site has not worked for months. I have
> >contacted them, and through email exchanges, their representative has
> >indicated they have no knowledge of this aircraft
> >The person claiming the record, a guy by the name of Juan Jimenez, has
> >informed me that the reason I cannot find the record is because I
> >"have the IQ of a pin", and do not know "which database to search".
> >I am quite sure I have searched the "correct database", and reasonably
> >sure the people at Guinness know their own database and how to search
> >it, but the final response to detailed questions about this BD5 is
> >that they have no knowledge of it.
> >Can anyone in this forum shed light on this discrepancy?
>
> Ted,
>
> You may find enlightenment through a search of the archives of this group..
> Or you might look up the definition of the word Apteryx.
>
> Rich Isakson

I have done some research, including this forum. There is no record of
flight that I can find, although it has apparently passed some taxi
tests.

I'm curious mostly because Guinness seems to have no official
recollection of the aircraft, which seems odd. Even if the record has
been beat, they should have it in their archives. It is Deregistered,
could that have something to do with it? Or it some sort of scam they
don't want to discuss?

Ted Parvo wrote
> I'm looking for *verification for a claimed Guinness World Record for
> World's smallest jet aircraft. A BD5.

Can there not be a "World's Smallest Jet Aircraft" without involving
a "Guinness World Record"? It is my understanding that in order to
claim a "Guinness World Record", one must make application and provide
proof to the Guinness orginization. Maybe no one applied.

However....just Google BD-5J and you will find that there have been
several built and I have personally seen one of fly an aerobatic routine
at an airshow.

Bob Moore

"Ted Parvo" wrote in message
...

>On May 27, 1:48 pm, "Richard Isakson" > wrote:
>> "Ted Parvo" wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> >I'm looking for verification for a claimed Guinness World Record for
>> >World's smallest jet aircraft. A BD5.
>> >The link on the Guinness site has not worked for months. I have
>> >contacted them, and through email exchanges, their representative has
>> >indicated they have no knowledge of this aircraft
>> >The person claiming the record, a guy by the name of Juan Jimenez, has
>> >informed me that the reason I cannot find the record is because I
>> >"have the IQ of a pin", and do not know "which database to search".
>> >I am quite sure I have searched the "correct database", and reasonably
>> >sure the people at Guinness know their own database and how to search
>> >it, but the final response to detailed questions about this BD5 is
>> >that they have no knowledge of it.
>> >Can anyone in this forum shed light on this discrepancy?
>>
>> Ted,
>>
>> You may find enlightenment through a search of the archives of this
>> group.
>> Or you might look up the definition of the word Apteryx.
>>
>> Rich Isakson
>
>I have done some research, including this forum. There is no record of
>flight that I can find, although it has apparently passed some taxi
>tests.
>
>I'm curious mostly because Guinness seems to have no official
>recollection of the aircraft, which seems odd. Even if the record has
>been beat, they should have it in their archives. It is Deregistered,
>could that have something to do with it? Or it some sort of scam they
>don't want to discuss?

I believe that at one time people were pushing so hard for records that they
started getting hurt and Guinness disallowed some categories. Whether the
category "smallest jet to fly that's never flown" was one of those
categories, I have no idea.

Richard Isakson

In a previous article, Bob Moore > said:
>However....just Google BD-5J and you will find that there have been
>several built and I have personally seen one of fly an aerobatic routine
>at an airshow.

However the one Jimenez bought, which he claims on Wikipedia "held the
Guiness record for World's Smallest Jet for more than 25 years" has never
been seen to fly. When I pointed that out on the Talk page for the BD5
entry, he got very angry and claimed that he was going to fly it any day
now, while not denying that it has never flown. He hasn't updated that
assertion since 2006.

Jimenez himself, posting as "Flybd5", is the main source for all the
information about it on Wikipedia, you can take anything it says there
with a massive grain of salt. It is currently listed on his web site as
"for sale", again with no indication that it has ever flown, but that page
hasn't been updated in a very long time. http://bd5.com/my5j.htm



--
Paul Tomblin > http://blog.xcski.com/
"You are installing Internet Explorer 4.0. Windows NT needs to overwrite
all your system dll's and restart your computer. Note that this
application is NOT part of the operating system. Good luck."

le dimanche 27 mai 2012 19:33, Ted Parvo a écrit:

> I'm looking for verification for a claimed Guinness World Record for
> World's smallest jet aircraft. A BD5.

too heavy!!!
http://www.minijets.org/typo3/index.php?id=25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7Y-AL3YfWzM
I think MC15J is the winer


--
Philippe Vessaire Ò¿Ó¬

Though Jimenez's BD5J may have never flown, there have been several that
have. I saw a demonstration team at an airshow that was flying BD5Js. Here
is a YouTube video relating to the one that appeared in a James Bond movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gPc2D9FMOo

and here is the it's last flight in Arizona
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38Wq8Fulsfc&feature=related

Undoubtedly today's smallest jet aircraft is the cricri.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y-AL3YfWzM

Wayne
http://www.soaridaho.com/



"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message ...

In a previous article, Bob Moore > said:
>However....just Google BD-5J and you will find that there have been
>several built and I have personally seen one of fly an aerobatic routine
>at an airshow.

However the one Jimenez bought, which he claims on Wikipedia "held the
Guiness record for World's Smallest Jet for more than 25 years" has never
been seen to fly. When I pointed that out on the Talk page for the BD5
entry, he got very angry and claimed that he was going to fly it any day
now, while not denying that it has never flown. He hasn't updated that
assertion since 2006.

Jimenez himself, posting as "Flybd5", is the main source for all the
information about it on Wikipedia, you can take anything it says there
with a massive grain of salt. It is currently listed on his web site as
"for sale", again with no indication that it has ever flown, but that page
hasn't been updated in a very long time. http://bd5.com/my5j.htm



--
Paul Tomblin > http://blog.xcski.com/
"You are installing Internet Explorer 4.0. Windows NT needs to overwrite
all your system dll's and restart your computer. Note that this
application is NOT part of the operating system. Good luck."

On May 29, 8:31*am, "Wayne Paul" > wrote:
> Though Jimenez's BD5J may have never flown, there have been several that
> have. *I saw a demonstration team at an airshow that was flying BD5Js. *Here
> is a YouTube video relating to the one that appeared in a James Bond movie.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gPc2D9FMOo
>
> and here is the it's last flight in Arizonahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38Wq8Fulsfc&feature=related
>
> Undoubtedly today's smallest jet aircraft is the cricri.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y-AL3YfWzM
>
> Waynehttp://www.soaridaho.com/
>
> "Paul Tomblin" *wrote in ...
>
> In a previous article, Bob Moore > said:
>
> >However....just Google BD-5J and you will find that there have been
> >several built and I have personally seen one of fly an aerobatic routine
> >at an airshow.
>
> However the one Jimenez bought, which he claims on Wikipedia "held the
> Guiness record for World's Smallest Jet for more than 25 years" has never
> been seen to fly. *When I pointed that out on the Talk page for the BD5
> entry, he got very angry and claimed that he was going to fly it any day
> now, while not denying that it has never flown. *He hasn't updated that
> assertion since 2006.
>
> Jimenez himself, posting as "Flybd5", is the main source for all the
> information about it on Wikipedia, you can take anything it says there
> with a massive grain of salt. *It is currently listed on his web site as
> "for sale", again with no indication that it has ever flown, but that page
> hasn't been updated in a very long time.http://bd5.com/my5j.htm

Thanks for the info. I don't think Juan's has flown, and I don't know
if his holds any record anymore. He's not very eager to answer
questions. I've found that he's a bit of a prick, to say the least.

In article >,
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

> In a previous article, Bob Moore > said:
> >However....just Google BD-5J and you will find that there have been
> >several built and I have personally seen one of fly an aerobatic routine
> >at an airshow.
>
> However the one Jimenez bought, which he claims on Wikipedia "held the
> Guiness record for World's Smallest Jet for more than 25 years" has never
> been seen to fly. *When I pointed that out on the Talk page for the BD5
> entry, he got very angry and claimed that he was going to fly it any day
> now, while not denying that it has never flown. *He hasn't updated that
> assertion since 2006.
>
> Jimenez himself, posting as "Flybd5", is the main source for all the
> information about it on Wikipedia, you can take anything it says there
> with a massive grain of salt. *It is currently listed on his web site as
> "for sale", again with no indication that it has ever flown, but that page
> hasn't been updated in a very long time. http://bd5.com/my5j.htm

His posting name is why I looked into the BD5, and I stumbled on
something that's not adding up.

If it's never flown, how can it get an aircraft record? Was this claim
used to market the aircraft or designers, based on this specific kit
that never flew?


No-one involved seems eager to answer these questions, and they
shouldn't be. It is a curiosity that the record holder of 25 years
angrily won't, and the issuer of the record claims complete ignorance
of this aircraft, or the BD5. No hits on a search of their site.

If there were a simple answer, I'd have it by now, but there seems to
be no answer at all, and that's just a bit damn weird, as is the
holder of this "record".

On 5/30/2012 9:38 PM, Ted Parvo wrote:
> In >,
> (Paul Tomblin) wrote:
>
>> In a previous article, Bob > said:
>>> However....just Google BD-5J and you will find that there have been
>>> several built and I have personally seen one of fly an aerobatic routine
>>> at an airshow.
>>
>> However the one Jimenez bought, which he claims on Wikipedia "held the
>> Guiness record for World's Smallest Jet for more than 25 years" has never
>> been seen to fly. When I pointed that out on the Talk page for the BD5
>> entry, he got very angry and claimed that he was going to fly it any day
>> now, while not denying that it has never flown. He hasn't updated that
>> assertion since 2006.
>>
>> Jimenez himself, posting as "Flybd5", is the main source for all the
>> information about it on Wikipedia, you can take anything it says there
>> with a massive grain of salt. It is currently listed on his web site as
>> "for sale", again with no indication that it has ever flown, but that page
>> hasn't been updated in a very long time. http://bd5.com/my5j.htm
>
> His posting name is why I looked into the BD5, and I stumbled on
> something that's not adding up.
>
> If it's never flown, how can it get an aircraft record? Was this claim
> used to market the aircraft or designers, based on this specific kit
> that never flew?
>
>
> No-one involved seems eager to answer these questions, and they
> shouldn't be. It is a curiosity that the record holder of 25 years
> angrily won't, and the issuer of the record claims complete ignorance
> of this aircraft, or the BD5. No hits on a search of their site.
>
> If there were a simple answer, I'd have it by now, but there seems to
> be no answer at all, and that's just a bit damn weird, as is the
> holder of this "record".


Long long ago, far far away,

It WAS true - at one time.
The BD5 was the smallest jet by quite bit.

Before the CriCri showed up...

"Richard" wrote in message
m...

>Long long ago, far far away,
>
>It WAS true - at one time.
>The BD5 was the smallest jet by quite bit.
>
>Before the CriCri showed up...


Richard,

The claim was never that the BD-5J was the smallest Jet. It was that one
particular BD-5J was smaller than all the rest of the BD-5Js. He also
claimed it was smaller than the CriCri jet. Nonsense, of course, but that
was the claim. I don't suppose even Juan would claim that it's smaller than
the nutcase that strapped a couple of jets to his ankles and jumped out of a
perfectly good airplane.

Rich

On 05/31/2012 06:56 PM, Richard Isakson wrote:
> "Richard" wrote in message
> m...
>
>> Long long ago, far far away,
>>
>> It WAS true - at one time.
>> The BD5 was the smallest jet by quite bit.
>>
>> Before the CriCri showed up...
>
>
> Richard,
>
> The claim was never that the BD-5J was the smallest Jet. It was that one
> particular BD-5J was smaller than all the rest of the BD-5Js. He also
> claimed it was smaller than the CriCri jet. Nonsense, of course, but
> that was the claim.

Juan said that the BD5J is smaller than the CriCri because it has a
shorter fuselage.

..
>>> It WAS true - at one time.
>>> The BD5 was the smallest jet by quite bit.
>>>
>>> Before the CriCri showed up...

Must have been about nine or ten years ago, someone's
BD-5J performed at an Armed Forces Day air show
at Whidbey Island Naval Air Station.
I think the show moderator called it the World's smallest
Jet, but memory is a fragile thing.
I think I have pictures somewhere, but darned computer
won't cough 'em up.

Old Chief Lynn

Old Chief Lynn,

You name is familiar.

Old B/N Wayne
VAH-10, VAH-123, VA-196, VA-128, VA-115


"coffelt2" wrote in message
...

..
>>> It WAS true - at one time.
>>> The BD5 was the smallest jet by quite bit.
>>>
>>> Before the CriCri showed up...

Must have been about nine or ten years ago, someone's
BD-5J performed at an Armed Forces Day air show
at Whidbey Island Naval Air Station.
I think the show moderator called it the World's smallest
Jet, but memory is a fragile thing.
I think I have pictures somewhere, but darned computer
won't cough 'em up.

Old Chief Lynn

In article >,
Ted Parvo > wrote:
>
>If it's never flown, how can it get an aircraft record? Was this claim
>used to market the aircraft or designers, based on this specific kit
>that never flew?

Many BD-5Js _did_ fly. Mr Jiminez just never flew the one he bought.

>No-one involved seems eager to answer these questions, and they
>shouldn't be. It is a curiosity that the record holder of 25 years
>angrily won't,

No surprise there. Jiminez was *NOT* the owner of the record-holding aircraft
for most of that time. He bought it from the original owner in 2004, and
never flew it.o

Further, the 1988-built, twin-jet powered Cri-Cri of Nicolas Charmont
weighs in (the Guiness measurement criteria for 'smallest'), at just over
*half* the weight of Mr. Jiminez's plane.

The Wikipedia article "Bede_BD-5' is reasonably accurate.

> and the issuer of the record claims complete ignorance
>of this aircraft, or the BD5. No hits on a search of their site.

Dunno where you were looking, I found:
<http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records-1000/smallest-aircraft,-jet-aircraft/>
referenced in the Wikipedia article above. It loads.

A Guiness site search for 'smallest jet' produces a link -- which appears
like it is intended to connect to the above page, but the link is defective.
{a 'coding' error by the site maintainer}

A site search for 'BD-5' also produces the same defective link.

>If there were a simple answer, I'd have it by now, but there seems to
>be no answer at all, and that's just a bit damn weird, as is the
>holder of this "record".

The Cri-Cri, designed by Michael Columbian, as built by Nicolas Charmont
using two jet engines (tail number F-PZPR) in _1988_, handily beats Jiminez's
BD-5 as the 'worlds smallest jet', by weight -- the criteria for the Guiness
rating -- at 80kg, vs Jiminez's plane at 162kg.

As this Cri-Cri was built 16 years _before_ Jiminez 'claimed' the record,
the only reason Jiminez's pseudo-record exists is that neither Mr. Columbian,
of the original Cri-Cri, nor Mr. Charmont, the jet-engined builder, have
bothered to notify Guiness.

'a bit damn weird' is a gross understatement! If the name "Jim Campbell"
means anything to you, Jiminez is/was one of his cronies/lap-dogs. And even
_less_ reliable.

On Jun 9, 2:08*am, Paul Saccani > wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2012 10:33:57 -0700 (PDT), Ted Parvo
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >I'm looking for *verification for a claimed Guinness World Record for
> >World's smallest jet aircraft. A BD5.
>
> >The link on the Guinness site has not worked for months. I have
> >contacted them, and through email exchanges, their representative has
> >indicated they have no knowledge of this aircraft
>
> >The person claiming the record, a guy by the name of Juan Jimenez, has
> >informed me that the reason I cannot find the record is because I
> >"have the IQ of a pin", and do not know "which database to search".
>
> >I am quite sure I have searched the "correct database", and reasonably
> >sure the people at Guinness know their own database and how to search
> >it, but the final response to detailed questions about this BD5 is
> >that they have no knowledge of it.
>
> >Can anyone in this forum shed light on this discrepancy?
>
> If you check the following URL,
>
> http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/1000/smallest-aircr...
>
> it lists the following; Juan Jimenez, Smallest Jet Aircraft, United
> States, 1 Jan 2004.
>
> "The smallest jet aircraft is the home-built Bede BD-5J Microjet owned
> by Juan Jimenez of San Juan, Puerto Rico, USA, which weighs 162 kg
> (358 lb), is 3.7 m (12 ft) long, has a 5.7 m (17 ft) wingspan, and can
> fly at 483 km/h (300 mph).
>
> There are actually several hundred BD-5 aircraft flying, produced and
> sold in kit form by the Bede aircraft company. However, this is the
> smallest (by weight) jet engined example."
>
> Which is, of course, quite wrong. as the Cri-Cri MC15J is both smaller
> and lighter, its MTOW being only 8 kg heavier than the empty weight of
> the supposed "record" holder.
>
> Nonetheless, it would seem true that he has a Guinness World Record,
> though of course, it isn't the real record.
> --
> Cheers,
> Paul Saccani
> Perth, Western Australia.

I recall the long discussion of Jaun and that airplane. IIRC he never
flew it. Could be wrong.

I wonder what ever happened to the nut.

Harry K

On Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:03:49 AM UTC-4, Harry K wrote:
>
> I wonder what ever happened to the nut.
>
> Harry K

Right here, K-boi, laughing at all the jealous fools who will never achieve what I have accomplished. The claim that the CriCri is smaller than the BD-5J has been laughed at for years. If it were true, =anyone= who owns/owned one could have applied for the record. So sad for all you dweebs that the record must be claimed by weight =and= size, and the CriCri is longer than the BD-5J by almost a foot, and that's why the BD-5J has held the record for more than 30 years now.

And about PeeWee Parvo, let's just say he's just another of the garden-variety mental-midget nip-at-the-heels trolls over in one of the Texas newsgroups, where I bitchslap them every day for cheap entertainment. The chump thought that a web site problem that was affecting quite a few records and was preventing mine from showing up somehow meant Guinness had no knowledge of my record. Suffice to say that he tucked his tail and never came back here after this entry started working again, among many others. :)

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/1000/smallest-aircraft-jet-aircraft

And with that, I'll leave you boys to whine and stomp and cry to mama. Cya. :)

In article >,
wrote:

> On Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:03:49 AM UTC-4, Harry K wrote:
> >
> > I wonder what ever happened to the nut.
> >
> > Harry K
>
> Right here, K-boi, laughing at all the jealous fools who will never achieve
> what I have accomplished. The claim that the CriCri is smaller than the BD-5J
> has been laughed at for years. If it were true, =anyone= who owns/owned one
> could have applied for the record. So sad for all you dweebs that the record
> must be claimed by weight =and= size, and the CriCri is longer than the BD-5J
> by almost a foot, and that's why the BD-5J has held the record for more than
> 30 years now.
>
> And about PeeWee Parvo, let's just say he's just another of the
> garden-variety mental-midget nip-at-the-heels trolls over in one of the Texas
> newsgroups, where I bitchslap them every day for cheap entertainment. The
> chump thought that a web site problem that was affecting quite a few records
> and was preventing mine from showing up somehow meant Guinness had no
> knowledge of my record. Suffice to say that he tucked his tail and never came
> back here after this entry started working again, among many others. :)
>
> http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/1000/smallest-aircraft-jet-a
> ircraft
>
> And with that, I'll leave you boys to whine and stomp and cry to mama. Cya.
> :)


Has this jet ever been flown?

On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 18:51:17 -0700, parvomon wrote:

> In article >,
> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:03:49 AM UTC-4, Harry K wrote:
>> >
>> > I wonder what ever happened to the nut.
>> >
>> > Harry K
>>
>> Right here, K-boi, laughing at all the jealous fools who will never
>> achieve what I have accomplished. The claim that the CriCri is smaller
>> than the BD-5J has been laughed at for years. If it were true, =anyone=
>> who owns/owned one could have applied for the record. So sad for all
>> you dweebs that the record must be claimed by weight =and= size, and
>> the CriCri is longer than the BD-5J by almost a foot, and that's why
>> the BD-5J has held the record for more than 30 years now.
>>
>> And about PeeWee Parvo, let's just say he's just another of the
>> garden-variety mental-midget nip-at-the-heels trolls over in one of the
>> Texas newsgroups, where I bitchslap them every day for cheap
>> entertainment. The chump thought that a web site problem that was
>> affecting quite a few records and was preventing mine from showing up
>> somehow meant Guinness had no knowledge of my record. Suffice to say
>> that he tucked his tail and never came back here after this entry
>> started working again, among many others. :)
>>
>> http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/1000/smallest-
aircraft-jet-a
>> ircraft
>>
>> And with that, I'll leave you boys to whine and stomp and cry to mama.
>> Cya. :)
>
>
> Has this jet ever been flown?

I have discovered that it is impossible to reason with him.
He evades logic and throws out taunts when he has no other answer.

He has been in my kill file for years.

In article >,
whatever > wrote:

> On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 18:51:17 -0700, parvomon wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:03:49 AM UTC-4, Harry K wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I wonder what ever happened to the nut.
> >> >
> >> > Harry K
> >>
> >> Right here, K-boi, laughing at all the jealous fools who will never
> >> achieve what I have accomplished. The claim that the CriCri is smaller
> >> than the BD-5J has been laughed at for years. If it were true, =anyone=
> >> who owns/owned one could have applied for the record. So sad for all
> >> you dweebs that the record must be claimed by weight =and= size, and
> >> the CriCri is longer than the BD-5J by almost a foot, and that's why
> >> the BD-5J has held the record for more than 30 years now.
> >>
> >> And about PeeWee Parvo, let's just say he's just another of the
> >> garden-variety mental-midget nip-at-the-heels trolls over in one of the
> >> Texas newsgroups, where I bitchslap them every day for cheap
> >> entertainment. The chump thought that a web site problem that was
> >> affecting quite a few records and was preventing mine from showing up
> >> somehow meant Guinness had no knowledge of my record. Suffice to say
> >> that he tucked his tail and never came back here after this entry
> >> started working again, among many others. :)
> >>
> >> http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/1000/smallest-
> aircraft-jet-a
> >> ircraft
> >>
> >> And with that, I'll leave you boys to whine and stomp and cry to mama.
> >> Cya. :)
> >
> >
> > Has this jet ever been flown?
>
> I have discovered that it is impossible to reason with him.
> He evades logic and throws out taunts when he has no other answer.


He's not the flyingest jet in the hangar, but thankfully he doesn't realize it. He's a source of entertainment for many in the political newsgroups, sort of like Monty Python's Black Knight, crossed with a lizard..

His moniker seems to be a misrepresentation, it should be Pushbd5.

> He has been in my kill file for years.


Just think of all the free entertainment you've missed.

On 5/27/2012 12:33 PM, Ted Parvo wrote:
> I'm looking for verification for a claimed Guinness World Record for
> World's smallest jet aircraft. A BD5.
>
> The link on the Guinness site has not worked for months. I have
> contacted them, and through email exchanges, their representative has
> indicated they have no knowledge of this aircraft
>
> The person claiming the record, a guy by the name of Juan Jimenez, has
> informed me that the reason I cannot find the record is because I
> "have the IQ of a pin", and do not know "which database to search".
>
> I am quite sure I have searched the "correct database", and reasonably
> sure the people at Guinness know their own database and how to search
> it, but the final response to detailed questions about this BD5 is
> that they have no knowledge of it.
>
> Can anyone in this forum shed light on this discrepancy?


Video of the 5J flying...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38Wq8Fulsfc&feature=related

In article >,
Paul Saccani > wrote:

> On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 17:07:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:03:49 AM UTC-4, Harry K wrote:
> >>
> >> I wonder what ever happened to the nut.
> >>
> >> Harry K
> >
> >Right here, K-boi, laughing at all the jealous fools who will never achieve
> >what I have accomplished. The claim that the CriCri is smaller than the
> >BD-5J has been laughed at for years. If it were true, =anyone= who
> >owns/owned one could have applied for the record. So sad for all you dweebs
> >that the record must be claimed by weight =and= size, and the CriCri is
> >longer than the BD-5J by almost a foot, and that's why the BD-5J has held
> >the record for more than 30 years now.
>
> The Cri-Cri MC15J is about half the weight of your BD-5, at 80 kg
> versus 162.7 kg. *Whilst your stated length, 3.7 m, is shorter than
> the 3.9 m length of the MC-15J, your wingspan, at 5.7m, is .8 m wider
> than the 4.9 m wingspan of the MC15J Cri-Cri.
>
> This makes your aircraft the shortest jet, but in no way does it make
> it the smallest.
>
> Not the lightest, not the smallest.
>
> Those are the facts.
>
> *I wish you luck with the world's shortest jet.
>
> My limited experience with them is that they have unpleasant handling
> and occupants do not fare well in a forced landing, even on an
> airfield.
>
> I would suggest that you provide some crushable structure under the
> seat. *In a gear up landing, there is strong tendency to back injuries
> and paraplegia, which you don't want. *There is essentially no
> distance between your backside and the ground when you land wheels up,
> and the accelerations are quite great.

I don't think any landing issues are of concern to the owner of the kit in question.